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Ben Gruder's avatar

Would that we could all at least try to understand the other side, without feeling the need to excuse them. I have a question though: You write "after Trump scuttled the deal, reimposed painful sanctions, and assassinated Qasem Soleimani? What made Biden think that turning back the clock was either possible or desirable?" I'd like to see a logical and thorough argument about why it is not worth the effort to engage with Iran to find a way to limit or eliminate its nukes. Even in Obama's day, the right was raging against it, but if there were nuanced arguments from their side, I never saw them (they all seemed to be along the lines of "Ok, we might be able to stop their nukes with the treaty, but if we can't make them behave in all other ways about meddling in the middle east, it's not worth it, and we should take our toys and go home". Are we REALLY in a better spot because of that all-or-nothing approach?) By all accounts, Iran WAS complying with the nuclear portion of the treaty before Trump threw it away. The "we cannot tell if they are complying" sounds suspiciously like the ones used against Iraq by those claiming they had WMD. Hans Blicks and Scott Ritter were 'cancelled' even though they were correct.

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Bob Eno's avatar

I think this is a very rich contribution to the responses to the attacks that I've read so far. I don't agree fully with all of it, but I do agree with most, and all of the post seems carefully thought.

I'm interested in Mr. Scialabba's response in the comments because it illustrates a process I've felt frustrated by now for well over fifty years: the response that suggests one side is fully at fault and then uses as evidence the arguments of people supporting that position, ignoring the arguments of people who say the other side is fully at fault while trotting out their own warhorses.

The history of the conflict dates back over a century and is enormously complex, both factually and morally, and extends to the detritus of Ottoman and Nazi wreckages. It is not at all difficult to drown out the "other side" with an endless recital of facts (often highly leveraged) to support your side.

It leads nowhere. Historical arguments assigning blame are only tools to prolong the conflict, which I've come to believe is going to outlive me, although if you'd told me in 1967 that it wouldn't be resolved by 2000 I'd have shaken my head.

What might lead somewhere, I think, is a realization that playing into the conflict by playing for one side against the other only creates continuing pain for both sides. The alternative of working for a settlement that may offend the sense of justice on both sides, each rooted in a different justice narrative, seems to me the only way out. I feel disorienting dismay about the Hamas attacks, but do hold onto a hope that they may somehow renew hard work towards a formula that focuses on future possibilities, rather than on the endless litigation of past history.

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